Was the “irresponsible” comedian gaslighting the “Old Town Road” rapper for his decision to come out on the HBO series The Shop?
On Friday, gay Democratic presidential candidate, Pete Buttigieg spoke to The Breakfast Club‘s Charlamagne tha God about the exchange.
Said Charlamagne of Hart: “People think he was being dismissive of Lil Nas X by saying ‘he’s gay, so what?’ If I say I don’t care about who a man is sleeping with, why is that a problem?”
Replied Buttigieg: “I think it was the fact that he found it necessary to interrupt Lil Nas X and jump in and let everybody know that he doesn’t care. It’s almost like — I don’t want to say that I know how this sounds to other people — but I will say a lot of gay people hear that and hear something that might not be that different than what some folks here when they here somebody say ‘I don’t see color.’”
“Ohhh,” replied Charlamagne, nodding.
“This is a thing,” Buttigieg added. “As much as we might want to believe that our marriages are gonna be treated the exact same, that we just move through society like everybody else and we’re just living our lives, no, this is actually a thing. Kids are putting bullets through their heads over this.”
“What’s so impressive about what Lil Nas X is doing — I actually think he downplayed it a little bit, cause he talked about (making the decision to come out of the closet) from a position of strength, and I was impressed. At this moment when he’s blowing up, he decides to do this. But what he’s downplaying is that there’s a lot to lose, right? Cause now he gets to talk about that whether he wanted to or not, maybe he’d rather be talking about his music. He took that step and that took a lot of courage,” Buttigieg said.
Buttigieg then went on to explain what was troubling about Hart’s reaction: “I think when somebody finds it necessary to wave their arms up and down and jump up and down telling you how much this isn’t a thing for them it makes you wonder whether they’re being honest with themselves.”
Watch the exchange below.